As the games get harder you need your best monitoring environment to hear detail. That's headphones in my case as my room isn't treated yet. Speakers better for Stereohead though I think.
At what point is soundgym still making you a better producer/engineer/etc. vs. just making you good at the games?
At my level I'm 100% sure it's still helping (I'm not even at bronze yet). But at some point, your ears must be good enough and you've played the same games 10k times and you must just be training for the game no?
Kind of like a PhD drummer that can hear a 31/30 polyrhythm pattern, but can't come up with a great beat for a Beatles song (obviously that's a flawed example, but hopefully it illustrates the point)
Curious what you guys have as your goal before you think my time is probably better spent elsewhere? And curious if it changes by profession?
I'm more of a songwriter & musician and use production as a means to get good demos to producers and engineers. I think my goal is to get to 75-80th percentile on each game and then I will feel I have done my basics and am ready to move on to other areas of learning.
I'm at diamond 98.8% and I can say I believe 100% it still helps. Some things from my perspective and experience...
Quality is a diminishing return in the pursuit of excellence. The better you get.. the longer and more effort it takes to improve.
Assuming you put in the same amount of time everyday this is what I mean **the length of time are simply numbers to make my point, I don't know how long it took or will take for you to hit each milestone but it should be similar
0% - 60% - takes 2 months total 60% - 80% - takes 6 months total 80% - 90% - takes 1 year total 90% - 95% takes 1.5 years total 95% - 98% takes 2 years total
80% of your skills are learned in 20% of your time towards learning the craft. The final 20% takes 80% of your time.
I notice when I do ear training before a mix it's slightly better. I make better and quicker decisions. It's not a huge difference but it's like an athlete warming up... it makes a difference.
Over time your mixes will always improve and soundgym accelerates it. If your goal is to work at the top level this website will help a ton until you're there. Best of luck!
The game is hearing and identifying sound. You cannot be good at the games without it.
It took me around two weeks to be knocking on the door of the 80th percentile. The difference it's already made to my mixing is astonishing. I have to remind myself, I am not doing it for the game. It is a work out. An atunement. It is reference material. Like stretching before exercise.
The time that starts feeling of no use, is when you think you're better than being a human. :)
Well, your question is a very good one and I think many users have asked themselves the same question at some point... I've been on the platform for 4 years or so and without any doubt my hearing perception has improved a lot!
In my opinion, the answer to your question is relative... each person has a different process and goals in music and depending on this you may find more or less useful the use of soundgym. In my personal case I feel that the platform can still teach me and challenge me but for what I need as a music producer it is enough... so I think you could have some clear goals that help you to improve in real life, and focus on achieving them with patience and enjoying the process.
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