Mixdown practicing&learning


ki shi
Jun 18
Hello everyone. Hope all is well.

So I'm about to finish and send my mixing to mastering engineer.
I want to clear all of their sonical requirements such as headroom etc.

I checked my Peak and RMS on Ableton. and loudest Peak was around -3db and RMS -9db.

I have few questions:

1--Once I bounced it, the peak gets louder like almost hit 0db. How can I keep bounced audio as I checked before bouncing? will real time bouncing help or there another way?
2--Mastering engineer ask me to check Peak/RMS ratio and usually if the peak is -3db RMS should be -13 to -17db. But mine is much narrower. Does that mean the way I mix isn't ideal for mastering? Or I should check meter in right way??
3--So after all, what's the best meter plugin for checking if my mixing is
ready for sending to mastering engineer? I want simple one as possible but of course willing to learn how to use meters. So far I have quite many Waves plugins, I bought bundle. I think I should have enough but not sure..

I'll appreciate you guys's inputs!!!

Best regard.
we are now in an era where your loudest peak doesnt really matter, really. Some will ask you for -3, some -6 and some even -15 peak! But What many pro mixing engineers do is have their kick on 0 dbVU, mix everything surrounding kick and then NORMALIZE the highest peak to 0 dbFS, you can see that you maybe have clicked the normalize option when rendering on ableton. Real mastering engineers should be prepared to receive a normalized mix so they can lower the clip gain to their desired volume.

Regarding rms and loudness range, it mostly depends on what you want for your mix but shouldnt really worry about it as long as it sounds good and how you want it to sound like. In this case the mastering engineer was asking you for an EXTREMELY dynamic mix which is nice but you definitely dont have to follow that guideline if you want your mix to be more punchy, aggressive and compressed.

good meter plugin from waves is WLM which tells you rms and lufs you should check it out if you have it.

hope this helped solve some doubts xD maybe you could share your mix so it can have a fresh listen and tell you what its missing or if its ready?
ki shi
Jun 18
Hi Adrian! Thank you so much for your post!
Yes I wasn’t thinking to change my mixing much because me and the artist who makes decision already liked the mix.
But I just thought there could be more “technical aspect” when it comes to mastering. And I’m not so sure what’s the “must follow guide line”.

From my understanding or imagining, mastering has more technical skills required than music taste or sense. So I wasn’t enough confident. But now I’m much more relaxed after reading your lost:)

I’ll ask the artist if he doesn’t mind to share but probably he won’t.lol

But again, thank you so much !

Hope you’ll have a great weekend!
everything is right! it doesn't really matter how loud your track is. It doesn't matter if there are obvious errors in the balance of instruments in different parts of the spectrum. dynamic range is also very important, try to keep it above 6 dB, and preferably around 9 dB. but remember that you and the skill of an engineer have different tasks: your task is to create this creation and movement in a direction, to make everything interesting. and the job of a mastering engineer is to improve the broadcastability of your mix and make options for streaming services and for vinyl, if necessary.