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A. J.
Sep 19, 2023
Hi everyone, I'm having an issue lately. I hope I can explain myself, sometimes I'm close to finish a game and I only need two more answers and as soon as I make a mistake I lose two lives, is that normal? Also when I'm playing the beatmaker games the one guessing the tempo, I have made the right answer but make it as a mistake 😅 kind of a weird thing. Anyone else having the same problem?

Kind regards
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Fernando Peiter
Sep 19, 2023
Yeah. I make a mistake on the final of the exercise and generally I wrong the next ones rsrsrs It´s very anoying hahahaha
About the Beatmaker, It´s our fault, for shure.
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Damian Dalzell
Sep 19, 2023
So you input one incorrect answer but get two lives for punishment instead? Not normal.
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A. J.
Sep 19, 2023
Yeah, exactly as you said. I failed one time but then I lost two lives and of course I went like: whaaaaaaat nooooooo and was really frustrating. 😭
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Andrea Neustaeter
Sep 20, 2023
Totally noticed the same thing and yes it feels like a wrong answer is a brutal setback LOL
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Cuantas Vacas
Sep 21, 2023
You have to open a ticket at Support Center, because that behavior is not normal and quite nasty!
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Sean West
Sep 22, 2023
Not at all Vnknvvn. It's made to encourage you to get your listening area fixed & flat without issues so that you can hear panning as it's meant to be heard. If Pangirl is driving you nuts you need to work on your listening area until it's easy. Are you using Sonarworks? If not that's a great place to begin. Then you can find out what needs to be fixed & what to do about it.
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Alan Sharps
Sep 22, 2023
A.J. Sorry for the late reply. I've experienced that same thing in both the tempo and the swing challenges. I'm very careful to always assume that I'm wrong. The whole game is meant to improve our perceptions.

On the tempo game I've noticed that after choosing a correct answer a new beat will play that's within 5 clicks of the previous correct answer. It's still within the range of the cursor but when I select it I'm wrong. The correct answer is shown and it's not an even division of the beat. if it was twice as fast or half I would think I just missed the tempo vs. subdivisions. I'm convinced sometimes the game is wrong.

On the Swing game be careful to listen to the beat without the swing. Sometimes the swing might be in the 16th notes and not in the 8th notes (or 32nd notes vs 16th notes). Still there are times where the swing tightens but the answer is that it is looser. That's my perception at this time.

After playing swing jazz music and double time swing R&B music (New Jack/Purdie Shuffle?) it's tough for me to get OUT of my head that triplets are 50% swing. It seems in drum machine land swing is dotted 1/8 to 1/16 at 50%. Am I correct about that? Thanks.
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A. J.
Sep 23, 2023
Hey, Alan thank you for the answer. Yes, laso the same issue with the tempo game happened to me. And about the percentage I'm also a jazz musician, but from the start I didn't try to give a percentage to the jazz swing, maybe is because I'm a saxophonist 😅, I just kind of feel it as it is, kind of like if it gives me more or less swinging and just go for it hehehehe but is a really good way to think it, I'll try to apply it on the next games.
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Alan Sharps
Sep 24, 2023
Hi A.J., With the percentage of swing I'm usually teaching young musicians, usually drummers. I need to describe how to feel the variations of ride cymbal patterns. For me there is zero point of just quarter notes. There is no way to confirm the swing level. The other end is quarter followed by two eighths. I guess the would be 100 percent. When we play fast Bebop lines I point out that the swing never goes completely away. It never gets to really straight eighths.

If there is a dotted-eighth/sixteenth pattern it's usually a very slow tempos. That just feels like swinging the sixteenth instead of the eighth. Old habits die hard I guess. I've been around drum machines for many years but I usually enter grooves in real time MIDI so I never seem to start from defining the swing. I hope that's useful in some way.