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Pierre James
Mar 29, 2024
Going to start a little thread for myself to track my percentage over time. I started in December (4 months back) and I'm seeing others progress (e.g., getting to 80% in 90 days or so), and so I want to keep a thread to make sure I'm not missing days. If I'm going slow that's ok, just want to make sure I'm aware of my progress :)
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Pierre James
Mar 29, 2024
Day 1 1974 SPI 65% - this morning I felt my ears were really good I immediately passed 4/5 games (very happy about that).

Feedback eliminator feels like perfect pitch at times (which I don't have) when there are 4 boxes right next to eachother. One thing that helped was trying to keep all the notes in mind and use relative pitch to help. That can be hard if it jumps 5 octaves.
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Paul Schreiber
Mar 29, 2024
Great Ears!
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Pierre James
Mar 31, 2024
DAY 2 2226 SPI 66.1%

Spent a lot of time on stereohead practice and really felt like I learned something:
- 0 = 2 separate sounds but ful overlap, no independence, almost muddy
- .2 = feels like 0, but if you really listen you can hear that there is some independence of L/R and some clarity beginning to show.
- .4 = feels like 3 voices. An independent L + independent R + a mixed in the center that are all equal volume
- .6 = it feels like basically a L + R separate voices, but if you listen carefully you can still here the center voice
- .8 = L+R are fully separate but there's still a feeling of muddiness, but you can't hear it as in the center anymore.
- 1 = L+R are fully separate and everything sounds very clean.

The other ones I rushed through but still managed to pass one or two :)
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Pierre James
Apr 01, 2024
DAY 3 2297 SPI 66.3%

Seems a very small change in SPI despite passing 2/5 workouts... But the bulk of the time this morning was spent on EQ Cheetah kick drum only because I felt like I couldn't hear how mid / high eq's affected kick drums and wanted to get better there!
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Eric St-Onge
Apr 01, 2024
Maybe you already know this, but during a workout you can continue re-playing each game as many times as you want. I initially assumed that only the first try would count, and clicking on play again would be like an extra practice round, but no it turns out that you can play again and every attempt will count. So if you don't beat a particular level, you can just try again until you do, and even then you can keep going and beat multiple levels within one workout if you want to.

But it sounds like you're already learning and improving, keep it up!
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Pierre James
Apr 02, 2024
Thank you Eric :) I did that a bunch today on pan girl (I think 5x?) to finally pass haha, and so I actually passed all 5 (the rest were first try, must have had something in my breakfast - lucky day)

DAY 4 - 2566 SPI 67.1%

Very pleased with the progress. I felt like it sucked up a lot of energy to go through them today but I'm very happy with the outcome.
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Pierre James
Apr 02, 2024
Oh and I got my iron ears that's a fantastic feeling! It's hard to not feel down if you've been working on it for a while and it feels like how can I set a goal for gold ears if I haven't even hit the first step yet - so that feels awesome!
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Carson Koenig
Apr 02, 2024
yeah just stick with it, if you do the workout every day, or most days, even if u just blaze thru it on some days when you're tired, you will improve over time.
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Aidan Knight
Apr 02, 2024
Lock in gang
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Pierre James
Apr 03, 2024
Day 5 - 2712 SPI 67.5%

Didn't get much sleep last night and was rushing before work so it is what it is. Still made a little progress. Oh well. Tomorrow will be better.
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kjelt pieper
Apr 03, 2024
scores are nice and all but just know that you improved than its all good. some days my brain tricks me still.
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Pierre James
Apr 04, 2024
Yes @kjelt but it's motivating for sure to just keep seeing the number go up :)
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Pierre James
Apr 04, 2024
Day 6 - 3150 SPI 68.6%

I felt like it's the first time I'm hearing cuts properly. And first time I'm hearing Q properly. Still not great at it, but definitely improving. The progress is going steady

70th percentil is in reach and looking forward to hitting that milestone :)
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Great work, keep going! I recently hit 80% around 29k spi, so that gives you the target for the next milestone after 70%. The points get bigger as your level in each game increases, so it's not as hard as it might sound. The points are just a fun bonus in addition to the listening skills though.
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Pierre James
Apr 05, 2024
That will be the next goal @ Kristen :)
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Pierre James
Apr 05, 2024
Day 7 - 3596 SPI 69.6%

Really wanted to get to 70% but I think I was listening to loud this morning and I felt like I needed an ear break so I stopped at 69.6%. Going out of town for the next few days so will be radio silent until likely Tuesday but looking forward to picking back up and breaking 70% and then beyond :)

Although I didn't pass it today, EQ Mirror is the game where I feel woah I've made huge improvements from the get-go. Especially with bell peaks and dips. Really seeing improvement there, on compression, and on distortion which is a lot of fun to see.
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Pierre James
Apr 09, 2024
DAY 8 - 3901 SPI 70.1%

WOO - finally broke 70%! Next goal is going to be Bronze ears (5k SPI).

I had really rough starts on a lot of the games but I also think I drew some tough sounds (bongos, kick drums, those are always harder on EQ than the melodic instruments imo).

I'm sure the couple of days off while I was out of town didn't help. Anyway back at it tomorrow.
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Pierre James
Apr 10, 2024
DAY 9 - 4418 SPI 70.9%

Decently content with progress - felt a little bit of fatigue of doing the same games over and over and it's only been 9 days (technically it's been a lot more but only 9 days since starting this challenge). Hard to build new habits but gonna stick with it! Very close to Bronze ears which is exciting.
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Pierre James
Apr 11, 2024
DAY 10 - 4505 SPI 71%

I spent an insane amount of time trying to beat bass detective and EQ Cheetah and failed on both. But I rushed through distortion and beat that one. Better luck tomorrow hopefully.
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I finally had a breakthrough on Bass Detective, and now I wish there were mid and high range specific games too. I'm still struggling on Cheetah though, you're not alone. Keep trying!
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Darryl Williams
Apr 11, 2024
I have the same struggles😀
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The Question Man
Apr 11, 2024
Connect certain frequency ranges with Vowels sounds, it'll help you in Feedback Eliminator and EQ games.
Here's a video that'll introduce this concept to you.
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kjelt pieper
Apr 11, 2024
found out it goes from o a e i (dutch), myself. just test run it with pinknoise and connect freqenties to those sounds , i think your motherlanguage playes a big role in noticing the sounds. because vowels can sounds pretty defrent in each language. i always strugle when i have to deal with vocals tho because they already make a vowel sound.
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Pierre James
Apr 12, 2024
interesting about the vowels! I am going to think a little more on that!
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Pierre James
Apr 12, 2024
Day 11 - SPI 4762 71.3%

Beat 2 levels of stereohead and a delay level. Kind of rushed through the rest. Pretty happy with it overall!
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Pierre James
Apr 15, 2024
Day 12 - SPI 4905 71.6%

Today was a good lesson. I rushed through everything and failed the first 4 immediately. Was also post working out but before breakfast so a little tired, but then I finally passed the 5th one. And even though I did horribly - it didn't take that long and I still got a little closer to my goal. .3% everyday means 10% over a month. Much better than skipping and probably progressing even slower. So even though not much progress I'm pretty happy bout it. Also I'm just 100 SPI to Bronze ears. May just log on later and try and beat stuff till I get there.
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Pierre James
Apr 16, 2024
Day 13 - SPI 5287 - 72%

Got my bronze ears finally! Goal accomplished! 75% is next goal.

Once again, didn't have too much time so sped thru but still saw small improvement (.4%). If I can keep that up for a month it should mean a decent amount of progress.

I am hitting a bit of a wall with the EQ games because I don't hear 2k-8k very accurately. I think I'll need to dedicate a good 20-30min in practice and repeating one or two of those games over and over till I beat it. It would be helpful to have bass detective for mid-low, mid-high, high as well. Just to help get more accurate. Maybe they didn't want too many EQ games.
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Pierre James
Apr 17, 2024
Day 14 - 6199 72.8% - nearly a % increase that's wild.

My mom says 14 is a lucky number and today she's right I CRUSHED it today. Passed about 4 levels across 3 exercises in relatively quick time. I think DrComp and BassDetec I have more levels I could pass as well if I had the time...will need to keep playing those to make progress!

Also I put out my first single yesterday called I Love You by Pierre James. Been playing violin for about 25 years so it's crazy it's taken me this long to record something and put it out there but I'm pretty happy with how it turned out and have about 8 more planned for the year. Hoping that soundgym will help me do a better job hearing and thus have a better outcome.

If anyone is actually reading this and if you happen to want to listen here is the linktree with that and my socials etc.: https://linktr.ee/pierrejames

All in all feels like a good week :)
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Pierre James
Apr 18, 2024
DAY 15 - 6461 SPI 73%

I beat 2 levels of EQ cheetah and 2 levels of another and passed another 1 level of 2 other games...but only got .2% increase lol. I think because the ones I was passing were some lower levels to start with, so it didn't get me as many points as I hoped :/ oh well. Feel great about the session though.
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Pierre James
Apr 19, 2024
DAY 16 - 7754 SPI 73.9%

Almost got a full percentage point today which is crazy! I had a little more time today so any game I beat I did over and got a few levels ahead on one or two of them which was encouraging. Last workout was distortion and 1-6/12 was so easy and then every time I got to 7-11 it was very difficult...will try again another day.

Anyway we're really close to the goal of 75% which is amazing! Looking forward to hitting that.
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Pierre James
Apr 20, 2024
DAY 17 - 9278 SPI 74.9%

Had a little more time to dedicate to this and got an extra % point up! Very close to the goal of 75%. As close as can be without reaching it :)
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Pierre James
Apr 22, 2024
Goal accomplished! DAY 18 - 10217 SPI 75.4%

Had a terrible go at it but beat the reverb one which is one I've been working on it so was happy there. Pretty surprised how quick it's been to get up to 75!

Next goal is either 80% or Silver ears...I'm not sure which is closer. I think 80% is closer, so I'll start with that goal.

the original goal was 80% in 90 days and it seems I'm almost there! and not even 1/4 of the way... really thrilled with the progress!
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Pierre James
Apr 22, 2024
DAY 19 SPI 11756 76.1%

Did horrible...and then beat kit cut 4 levels in a row. Funny how that works. Tomorrow ill be my last day before I'm on vacation. It's been fun but it will be nice to take a quick break :)
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Darryl Williams
Apr 22, 2024
Good work , you earned a break
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Pierre James
Apr 23, 2024
haha actually really encouraging / I love the office! @darryl williams
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Pierre James
Apr 23, 2024
DAY 20 SPI 12.6k 76.4% of users.

Going on vacation. Really looking forward to this break, definitely feel burned out, but have for sure made massive improvements in the last ~25 days. I've got a show May 3rd (Houston at Dan Electros) and will probably get back to this starting May 5 :) Hoping for a similarly succesful May as my April :)
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Congrats on your progress! You were wondering about the percentile for silver - I've been keeping notes and I hit it between 82-83%, so the two goals will be close. The rapid increase in % really fell off after that for me, but I still feel like I'm improving, so it's good. Enjoy your break!
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Pierre James
Jun 11, 2024
Aw thanks @Kristen :) That's helpful to know. Bummer that it gets harder after that but it definitely makes sense. I imagine everyone at silver and above has been working pretty hard at it! So hard to make those incremental improvements!
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Pierre James
Jun 11, 2024
DAY 21 SPI 13.8k 76.5% of users

First day back in about 2 months. I was surprised I was still able to beat two of the exercises on first try. Especially as I've been sick and have a bit of an ear issue that's giving me airplane ear so to speak. Maybe rests can be helpful from time to time!

I'll likely start to resume this habit once more this month. Really would like to hit 80% and then Silver and then re-evaluate whether or not this is still helping me in the way I want it too. :)
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Pierre James
Jun 12, 2024
DAY 22 SPI 14.7k 76.8%

bass detective got worse since my time away so worked on it a little bit and hoping i can beat it next time it comes up. Otherwise made steady progress. I seem to never lose on the matching levels game. Maybe I ought to try and beat as many levels as I can till I start losing so it's more of a training but I take a really long time to go through them. Could maybe try and do it faster to try and get my speed up a bit. We'll see :)
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Pierre James
Jun 13, 2024
DAY 23 SPI 20.4k 78.1%

Got a huge bump by playing balance game a few times and beating one other. Kind of rushed through today but nice to see the %age progress. The system really rewards you for beating your best game cause it gives you a lot more SPI more so than improving on your weaker games I guess...
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Darryl Williams
Jun 13, 2024
Keep grinding 💪
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Pierre James
Jun 18, 2024
Thank you @DArryl! You too :)
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Pierre James
Jun 18, 2024
DAY 24 SPI 21.0K 78.2%

For the first time in a while I did this later in the day rather than early morning and I felt like it was easier with less morning tiredness which is nice. Passed bass detective which I had been stuck on for a while. Repeated a few each time I lost and feel good about the progress :)

Closing in on 80%!
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Pierre James
Jun 18, 2024
Oh and despite just being on day 24, I started this challenge after I had done a fair amount of work. And I realized I just completed my 50th work out which is cool :).

I'm genuinely surprised how fast one can improve in this. And I know looking at others I'm pretty slow in comparison but still amazing to me how quickly the body learns.
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Pierre James
Jun 19, 2024
DAY 25 SPI 24.1k 78.8%

Not much to say, went through the motions today got lucky on one or two :/
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Pierre James
Jun 26, 2024
DAY 26 SPI 25.9k 79%

I find delay game as kind of useless. It feels more like a for fun game. I don't feel like my ear is getting better It's more like trying to accurately guess the number of seconds that has passed. Feels totally useless. Anyone agree with that?

Same with panhead. Contrast that to Stereohead which makes sense to me because you're learning how to hear wide-ness and you are actually having to distinguish something. But panhead you can hear just fine but you're just learning to get more accurate on the value being assigned. Feels useless. How do I go apply that in my mixes? I can just pan things and see the value and listen how it sounds...

Curious to hear if you guys have different perspective especially from some of the folks that have been around here for a while.
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Alan Locks
Jun 26, 2024
Hi Pierre, I used to think the same about the Delay Control, but as I went up on levels I started to notice phase issues when the MS are lower (between 3 and 20ms), so I am kind of teaching my brain to recognize phase/timing issues on files or recordings, for that I believe is worth the struggle lol. Also to set attack and release, having those times memorized is also a BIG skill in my opinion.
Just keep going and trust the process.
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Pierre James
Jul 02, 2024
@alan locks- that's super helpful I appreciate that perspective :) I will try and implement this thinking.

Any similar perspective on Panhead?